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Seth Finkelstein's avatar

FYI, a followup, Nate Silver has an article where he mentions how this "weird" tactic overall "didn't actually poll very well":

https://www.natesilver.net/p/kamala-harris-needs-weird-voters

It makes sense. This is the sort of rhetoric that the base just loves. If you say (exaggerated for effect) "Republicans are RAPISTS!", then there's many activists who will cheer, agree that's exactly so, say it even more harshly, etc. And, to be fair, motivating the base is important in politics. But that's not likely to convince the not-already-convinced. Now, some standard punditry at this point might go on to argue about backlash, in favor of their preferred political strategy of wonk op-ed articles and academic policy papers. I won't fall on that fainting-couch. It's just that it's a dangerous cognitive error to confuse what the already-decided enjoy, with anything else. Perhaps social media makes this even more prevalent. The amount of grief Nate Silver gets, for not playing to the most partisan mobs, is quite intellectually disturbing to me (then again, he can get trashed all the way to the Bank Of Substack).

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I don't think tribalism matters much here. It's not like Reps never used "weird" (the "childless cat ladies" meme you reference, together with countless others, was exactly that). It's that it does not stick against Dems, for the same reason a thousand variations of "you're callous and cruel" never stuck against Reps.

What matters is not tribalism is the abstract, but what image each tribe projects hic et nunc. To understand better, we might look at the reverse: why did a thousand variations of "you are elitist/callous/uncaring", usually coming from the very same people who routinely shit on the poor for giggles, was so successful?

Because Reps never pretended to care, while Dems built both their self-perception and their outreach on being the empathetic, understanding party ready to lend a hand. So any perceived failure in that regard sent them spiraling in self-doubt and was judged very harshly by voters. The cited Scott Alexander is a good example: SSC routinely featured posts along the lines of "I heard a liberal being less than fully charitable and empathetic toward people who want them dead. So much for the tolerant left!". I think the apex was his post on incels, which started off with "being dismissive to bitter lonely men makes you as callous as Reps are to the poor" as if it was the worst thing one could ever be, but obviously any post before and after insisted that being too dismissive of conservatives' views of the poor wss *also* the worst thing one could ever be.

I say this not bc of a personal pet peeve, but bc it illustrates very well how standards work: people have an idea of what they should expect from parties, and on a very instinctive, emotional level they judge them only based on expectation, not on an absolute scale.

What Waltz did with "weird" was a nuclear takedown to the level of "liberal elites": find a widely publicized core value of the opponent which you do not share in the slightest, and keep pointing out their failure to live up to that value. Yes, the average Democrat (or at least the average Dem operative) is much weirder than the average Rep, but who cares? Dems have always been weirdos. The public does not expect any different and no swing voter will begrudge this too much (if they did, they'd not be swing voters). But Reps being weird? Were they not supposed to be the bulwark of normalcy? The stern patriarchs? The squares?

Reps are having a meltdown bc... how do you even respond to that? They keep posting photos of blue-haired vegan poly liberals, and everyone is "well ok, we knew about them, but why did *you* post that cringe about cooking in tallow to avoid catching postmodernism? It does not sound that normal to me! Do you even go to church? Have you been lying to us the whole time?" and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it

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